by u/12D3KooWN9CVpvXZYoXGv1Yrp2PT7qGktgLGcx5A45zj8ZW3SRNr | 19mo ago
>It's about replacing white population which are class conscious, or at least a little class conscious, with muslim population who don't even know what class struggle is.
Muslims and blacks are class conscious. Every racial demographic is. You only need to look at the rebellions mounted by both demographics (or any demographic) over 2000+ years of modern history to see this. Every demographic will feel undermined by authoritarian wealth inequity.
>But in reality, the white proletariat is less submissive than the muslim proletariat...[Muslims] are happy to be exploited as wage slaves if they can go to the mosque.
Watch modern day successful rebellions in Islamic states eg Pakistan or Libya or failed uprisings like Syria and gulf states. These are all premised on ideological Islamic differences but also the social feeling that the lower class is feeling slighted by the authoritarian, wealthy leaders.
Even if your deranged theory that 'Muslim populations' do not 'know what class struggle is', was true, and this was utilized by elites to undermine European society, then this theory would still still be RACE, not class based...you are still arguing about a racial distinction, which would have a biological reality.
You only need to look at 2000 years of Islamic history, particularly the Ottomans, to realize Islamic history is premised on persecution of minorities and Islamic proselytization at the tip of the sword. Look at the previously Christian Jordan or Zoroastrian Iran - all but wiped out. If the elites wanted a 'submissive demographic' they wouldn't choose Islam because Islam is anything but submissive to the outgroup (elites). The only thing it submits to is the Islamic ideology itself (God). All outgroup philosophies, that are not Islamic, are destroyed if the outgroup fails to overcome Islamic proselytization. This is anything but submissive and not preferable by the elites.
The difference is this just didn't occur with the frequency and reach of European pagans and christians.
>They would prefer a white proletariat if the white proletariat was submissive.
This argument is now just turning into what comes first chicken or the egg (race or class?).
Firstly, Elites don't want a white proletariat because a white proletariat are genetically the most similar to the elites. If the underclass racially distinguishes itself from the elites, the elites find it mentally easier to persecute and enslave the masses which they see as an outgroup. The elites find it easier therefore, to enslave a rootless, globular, mixed race global population with no identity compared to numerous nationalistic and racially prideful European demographics.
Secondly, if we use your assumption that certain races can/cant identify class inequity as well as others, this is largely explained by genetic differences in interracial genetic expression regarding average pre frontal cortexes and amygdala development. This is an issue of RACE not 'class domination'.
Thirdly, there is the indisputable truth that Western elites are threatened by the European RACE because of the historical reality imbuing a 2000 year grudge against Pagan Rome (European genetics), which buckbroke all other Abrahamic religions for hundreds of years and slaughtered its own European leaders every 10-20 years. Pagan Rome then, with great irony, became Abrahamic itself through Christian proselytization against Germanic, Celtic and Slavic Pagans who were also enslaved, backbroke and forcibly converted. Yet, even with this new Christianized culture, Europe continued to mount religiously mandated wars against all others (this time against the remaining Abrahamics and many other European and non-European Pagans). Whether Europe was Christian or Pagan it continued to destroy outgroups, as well as its own ingroups who they deemed as corrupt. This implies a genetic element.
These reasons explain why the Western elite want to DESTROY European genetics and culture.
Incidental to this, when the elites are (God forbid) done with European society they will then set about destroying (homogenizing) Asia, India, Arabia and Africa with each other to destroy all these other seeds of racial and cultural distinctiveness (nationalism) while preserving their own genetics.
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by u/12D3KooWL2L2EWpXH6sV4CgNR31PW8XqTr7zCQ3vYv2hd74HnjjR | 19mo ago
Submissiveness is not about race. But about the level of class consciousness. From non-existent to radical.
Class consciousness doesn't develop with race purity. But by experiencing the wage worker social relationship through the centuries. 10 generations wage labor experience will make arabs or black class conscious.
" If the underclass racially distinguishes itself from the elites, the elites find it mentally easier to persecute and enslave the masses which they see as an outgroup"
This, again, is motivated by social domination in the social relationships of production. The cause of this behavior is the social relations of production.
Race is the wrong explanation. Elites never cares for the dominated class. Even when they were white. This is fantasy to think the elite ever care about the working class. They've always seen the working class as cattle. As you can see exploitations of the wage workers, and subsequent enrichment of the parasitic owners of the means of production, in homogenic ethnical countries like Japan, South Korea, China. These countries dominant class care more about their own social position, than the well being of their fellow wage workers.
As i explained as few years back in 4chan, mass immigration is on the rise in asian ethno state. Since foreign wage workers are paid less. Thus lower cost of production makes more profit for the private owners of the means of production. The tendency is confirmed. As it is happening. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan